Comments on: The role of publishers (according to a profitable publisher) http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/ Writing & marketing resources for authors of romance, erotica, pulp, and other adult-oriented genres. Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:29:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Think like a marketer. http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-2570 Think like a marketer. Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:44:26 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-2570 [...] to go into how bad a job most publishers are doing — you can read all about that here and here, if you [...] [...] to go into how bad a job most publishers are doing — you can read all about that here and here, if you [...]

]]> By: Awesome! I have dreamed of this day… (cell phone novels) http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-966 Awesome! I have dreamed of this day… (cell phone novels) Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:55:46 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-966 [...] Yes, you still have to go through an editorial process, but that editor really works for you. The editor you hire helps you make the writing into what you want it to be, not into what the publisher thinks it can sell. There is nothing wrong with this, by the way — I fully support publishers and think that they are, and will continue to be, very valuable. [...] [...] Yes, you still have to go through an editorial process, but that editor really works for you. The editor you hire helps you make the writing into what you want it to be, not into what the publisher thinks it can sell. There is nothing wrong with this, by the way — I fully support publishers and think that they are, and will continue to be, very valuable. [...]

]]> By: admin http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-639 admin Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:52:53 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-639 I'm still using an internet tablet that only does PDFs, so I'm not Kindle-ready either! Thanks. I’m still using an internet tablet that only does PDFs, so I’m not Kindle-ready either! Thanks.

]]> By: Josa Young http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-638 Josa Young Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:49:21 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-638 Thanks for replying. Many many older women really liked what happens in the book (reminded them of their 1950s heyday I think!) I did not set out to titillate - I think that is the difference, I set out to pinpoint young women's experiences and how they react to them. There is very little sex in the whole book, but what is there is there for a reason. www.oneappletasted.co.uk. I will check with my publisher about how you can obtain an e-book, although I know it is not Kindle ready. Thanks for replying. Many many older women really liked what happens in the book (reminded them of their 1950s heyday I think!) I did not set out to titillate – I think that is the difference, I set out to pinpoint young women’s experiences and how they react to them. There is very little sex in the whole book, but what is there is there for a reason. http://www.oneappletasted.co.uk. I will check with my publisher about how you can obtain an e-book, although I know it is not Kindle ready.

]]> By: admin http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-637 admin Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:38:56 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-637 Thanks, Anthony. You show great courage in saying, "This isn't the way I want it." Writing excellent stuff demands all the attention you can give it. The way things are now, few people can afford excellence, and that's got to be incredibly frustrating to any artist who cares about writing enduring fiction of any type or genre. Hopefully, my tutorial will at least help you be more efficient in your necessary self-marketing efforts. And thanks... I'm considering starting another, bigger, publishing company... but doing it right. More to come on that, so stay tuned. Thanks, Anthony. You show great courage in saying, “This isn’t the way I want it.” Writing excellent stuff demands all the attention you can give it. The way things are now, few people can afford excellence, and that’s got to be incredibly frustrating to any artist who cares about writing enduring fiction of any type or genre. Hopefully, my tutorial will at least help you be more efficient in your necessary self-marketing efforts.

And thanks… I’m considering starting another, bigger, publishing company… but doing it right. More to come on that, so stay tuned.

]]> By: admin http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-636 admin Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:34:59 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-636 Hi Josa! Thanks for chiming in. I can say "this is not your job" with certainty because I know what my job, as a publisher, really is. It's selling and marketing. Everything else a publisher does is just in support of marketing and selling. Exchanging goods for dollars. By the way, your article is very interesting, and we're totally on the same wavelength about adult-oriented fiction. I think we need to reframe it to be either adult-oriented or mature-audience fiction to get away from the forced split of "explicit stuff" vs "everything else." There's too much focus on the presence of sex itself, and not how it integrates with the story. Your book sounds great, and I'd love to read it -- is there an ebook version? I don't have any shelf space! Hi Josa! Thanks for chiming in. I can say “this is not your job” with certainty because I know what my job, as a publisher, really is. It’s selling and marketing. Everything else a publisher does is just in support of marketing and selling. Exchanging goods for dollars.

By the way, your article is very interesting, and we’re totally on the same wavelength about adult-oriented fiction. I think we need to reframe it to be either adult-oriented or mature-audience fiction to get away from the forced split of “explicit stuff” vs “everything else.” There’s too much focus on the presence of sex itself, and not how it integrates with the story. Your book sounds great, and I’d love to read it — is there an ebook version? I don’t have any shelf space!

]]> By: Josa Young http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-635 Josa Young Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:53:17 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-635 Hello, what an interesting post. I even designed and built my debut book's website! And have done nearly all the marketing and promotion for it using journalistic contacts, but very much saw this as what happens when you go with a small indie. Good to see someone saying that this isn't my job though, and it has definitely slowed down production on next novel. Here is an article I organised for myself which led to a good uplift in pre-sales, but nothing to do with my publisher: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/5769928/More-sex-please-were-grown-ups.html Hello, what an interesting post. I even designed and built my debut book’s website! And have done nearly all the marketing and promotion for it using journalistic contacts, but very much saw this as what happens when you go with a small indie. Good to see someone saying that this isn’t my job though, and it has definitely slowed down production on next novel. Here is an article I organised for myself which led to a good uplift in pre-sales, but nothing to do with my publisher: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/5769928/More-sex-please-were-grown-ups.html

]]> By: Anthony James Barnett - author http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-634 Anthony James Barnett - author Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:23:08 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-634 What a great post. You've just restored my faith that there ARE good publishers out there. My own publisher did nothing to market my book. I've had to get out there to TRY and get my name out on the internet in order for people to know that I even exist. I've written numerous articles and Hubpages, run two blogs, made inroads on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn, all of it in an attempt to let people know that I'm here - all of it using up time that would have been better utilised in writing novels. I am a writer not a marketeer. I feel cheated. What a great post.

You’ve just restored my faith that there ARE good publishers out there. My own publisher did nothing to market my book. I’ve had to get out there to TRY and get my name out on the internet in order for people to know that I even exist.

I’ve written numerous articles and Hubpages, run two blogs, made inroads on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn, all of it in an attempt to let people know that I’m here – all of it using up time that would have been better utilised in writing novels.

I am a writer not a marketeer. I feel cheated.

]]> By: admin http://www.adelejournal.com/2010/01/the-role-of-publishers-according-to-a-profitable-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-629 admin Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:31:21 +0000 http://www.adelejournal.com/?p=375#comment-629 Thanks, Christine. The whole blog is my opinion, of course, but it's opinion based on real life experience. It's very frustrating to me as a reader, knowing that I probably won't experience the best of what authors have to give, simply because they have to split their time doing someone else's job. The least I can do is make a self-marketing writer's life a little easier. Let me know if you have any questions. I should have mentioned that I didn't really have a beta tester for this tutorial, so it may be quite rough in spots! Thanks, Christine. The whole blog is my opinion, of course, but it’s opinion based on real life experience. It’s very frustrating to me as a reader, knowing that I probably won’t experience the best of what authors have to give, simply because they have to split their time doing someone else’s job.

The least I can do is make a self-marketing writer’s life a little easier. Let me know if you have any questions. I should have mentioned that I didn’t really have a beta tester for this tutorial, so it may be quite rough in spots!

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